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Outside Rides

About Outside Rides

This service was created in 2021 when it was found to have excellent historic results. A year of testing followed and with those live results replicating the previous ones, it’s now ready to be launched.

Outside Rides is a horse racing service with selections for UK flat racing and is largely based on certain jockeys and spotting when their bookings look to be of significance.

Most of the top performers have their contractual connections, being obliged to ride a certain trainer or owner’s horses whenever asked, be they good, bad or targeted for something in the future. Meanwhile, they will also pick up other rides for other trainers and owners when available. How and when they do so varies from rider to rider but the top of the tree are the most in demand and often get the most choice. It often means that smaller yards are selective about when they ask for the best jockeys so that they build a relationship- putting them on underperformers would likely mean greater reluctance to ride for that yard again when there are other better options, but giving them winners or strong chances helps both causes and increase the chances of them working together in the future.These rides are called ‘spares’ or ‘outside rides’.

So, an unusual partnership can often infer that expectations are high and with a leading rider on board that horse is going to have its best chance of being delivered successfully. However, it’s not quite as simple as picking every ride for the top jockeys because there are other factors to consider. For example, the influence of a jockey varies in different conditions and races, while different individuals have different motivations with some, such as Frankie Dettori, seeking to be involved at the top level more than looking to pick up winners and others the reverse.

The service is possible to follow either at bookmakers or the Betfair Exchange with further information in the groups section as to how to follow on the exchanges if desired.

Outside Rides | Bot Link

Currently there are spaces available for Outside Rides. Join at the link above and select /buypoints to add credits to your account.

Current Results


As mentioned above, Outside Rides was conceived in 2021. Because of this, the 2020 and 2021 results on the spreadsheet are backtested. In 2022 we looked to see how well and how broadly the premise worked and the results were very positive- it worked for the majority of the jockeys used but not all. William Buick, Jim Crowley, Jack Mitchell, Andrea Atzeni and Danny Tudhope all made impressive profits but Tudhope’s were mainly at high odds so he has not been included this year. (It also didn’t work for Tom Marquand and Oisin Murphy was suspended.)

We have removed Tudhope and Marquand and added Ben Curtis, Marco Ghiani, Paul Mulrennan and Jason Hart. We feel this will give us a very strong ‘squad’ for 2023. The results on this spreadsheet are what is possible if all have an impressive year. However, it is likely that a couple will underperform compared to their historical records and therefore the expected profits will be lower than shown here but we are very optimistic that they will continue to be very positive.

Service Fundamentals

Bookmakers used for recording pricesBet365, William Hill, Unibet, BetFred, Coral, Paddypower, Betvictor. Betfair Start Price for exchange group  

When are bets sent – Posts will be made each day at 10am with selections and there will be bets most days up to a maximum of 5 bets a day. (There will be some days when there are no bets, some days with 5 bets and many with a number in between.)

Odds Recording – for bookmakers group price will be recorded at 2nd best price of the recorded bookmakers above. The ‘Exchange’ group will have odds recorded at Betfair Starting Price with Betfair’s 2% commision deducted. 

Price – flat rate of £5 per point


Exchange group– this is for members looking to use the exchanges rather than bookies. These bets will be win only (not each-way or to place) due to lower liquidity on other markets. 

Bookie group– this is the group best suited if looking to use bookmakers or to bet each-way on some selections.

Members of both groups will receive the same selections but the difference will be how they are staked and settled. For example, an each-way bet with the Bookie group will have both parts of the bet- to win and to place- included in profit and loss- whereas the Exchange group will only have half the bet considered (the win part). Both groups are expected to have similar returns over time and members of each are able to bet the selections how they wish but joining the group that will more closely match how an individual bets will ensure recorded results are most similar to the bets that are made.

The bookie group is the default option for the bot. If wanting to follow the betfair exchange (BSP) group then follow the instructions below.

Instructions for joining Betfair Start Price (BSP) group

1) To start type /help – this will bring up all the commands and you will see the group options at the bottom.

2) Next click the /listgroups option to see the group options available to you (BSP).

3) Then you need to select the /joingroup option and simply type in the name of the group you wish to be a part of (I.e. ‘BSP’). If ever wanting to leave this group you do the reverse by selecting the /leavegroup option and typing out (‘BSP’).

Further Enquiries

You can get in touch with ME about all bot related enquiries to my email – or on twitter @OutsideRides.